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		<title>By: Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think maybe I would.  I don&#039;t know that I would have had the foresight to test when I was younger, even though I seem to have always known that this was my lot.  Now, though, that we are on the very verge of the end, I think I would like to know.  If we quit now are we giving up too soon?  Or are we justified in letting our emotions and our pocketbook begin to recover now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think maybe I would.  I don&#8217;t know that I would have had the foresight to test when I was younger, even though I seem to have always known that this was my lot.  Now, though, that we are on the very verge of the end, I think I would like to know.  If we quit now are we giving up too soon?  Or are we justified in letting our emotions and our pocketbook begin to recover now?</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 08:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great questions -- great link from Loribeth.

I think tests are important and sometimes helpful, but it is only half of the equation.  No test is 100% accurate.  The other thing I would have needed was doctors willing to interpret the results with me --- even if I looked really young at the time.   I was pretty baby faced in my 20&#039;s, and I was also very premenopausal.  No amount of FSH testing and no amount of telling my doctors my history (including 90% of my ovaries  remove)  led to any doctors saying anything but an emphatic &#039;you can wait.&#039;   I need to forgive them and myself for the advice and taking this advice.... but if there is a bias not to talk about fertility with young women, tests won&#039;t do much.  Information can bring more guilt and worry unless you have a way to make sense of it and decide how to proceed.

So yes.. more information is good, but it needs a culture around it to help people sort out what to do with it.   For me that means everything from doctors that are comfortable discussing fertility with women of all ages,  academic / professional flexibilities that are not so either or about parents and study, and work career paths that allow for women more options that don&#039;t pit biological realities against the theoretically more flexible realities of  professional and personal development.  Yes there is no way I could have done my studies and internships the way I did them AND have kids... but there is no reason I couldn&#039;t have done some of the internships and study and work while raising kids.  But that wasn&#039;t an option for me because of how grad school was set up and because I couldn&#039;t get health insurance without full time work/school.  

The one group that understood the reality of my situation was the insurance companies that took one look at my history and wrote DENIED DENIED DENIED on all my applications.  

So in short I would have taken the tests... but given how doctors responded to my elevated FSH levels, I suspect that nothing would have changed with a test that suggested the same outcome, just earlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great questions &#8212; great link from Loribeth.</p>
<p>I think tests are important and sometimes helpful, but it is only half of the equation.  No test is 100% accurate.  The other thing I would have needed was doctors willing to interpret the results with me &#8212; even if I looked really young at the time.   I was pretty baby faced in my 20&#8242;s, and I was also very premenopausal.  No amount of FSH testing and no amount of telling my doctors my history (including 90% of my ovaries  remove)  led to any doctors saying anything but an emphatic &#8216;you can wait.&#8217;   I need to forgive them and myself for the advice and taking this advice&#8230;. but if there is a bias not to talk about fertility with young women, tests won&#8217;t do much.  Information can bring more guilt and worry unless you have a way to make sense of it and decide how to proceed.</p>
<p>So yes.. more information is good, but it needs a culture around it to help people sort out what to do with it.   For me that means everything from doctors that are comfortable discussing fertility with women of all ages,  academic / professional flexibilities that are not so either or about parents and study, and work career paths that allow for women more options that don&#8217;t pit biological realities against the theoretically more flexible realities of  professional and personal development.  Yes there is no way I could have done my studies and internships the way I did them AND have kids&#8230; but there is no reason I couldn&#8217;t have done some of the internships and study and work while raising kids.  But that wasn&#8217;t an option for me because of how grad school was set up and because I couldn&#8217;t get health insurance without full time work/school.  </p>
<p>The one group that understood the reality of my situation was the insurance companies that took one look at my history and wrote DENIED DENIED DENIED on all my applications.  </p>
<p>So in short I would have taken the tests&#8230; but given how doctors responded to my elevated FSH levels, I suspect that nothing would have changed with a test that suggested the same outcome, just earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: Bea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 12:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, just read the above link by loribeth.  Well put, Doc.

Bea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, just read the above link by loribeth.  Well put, Doc.</p>
<p>Bea</p>
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		<title>By: Bea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 12:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, I remain skeptical about the four-month-window prediction.  I&#039;m seeing future headlines: Menopause test: not as accurate as we thought.  

At any rate, let&#039;s say it&#039;s only accurate to within a two year window - that&#039;s still locking it down quite a lot.  I think I would want to hear &quot;normal&quot; or &quot;premature&quot; but perhaps not the date itself.

Bea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I remain skeptical about the four-month-window prediction.  I&#8217;m seeing future headlines: Menopause test: not as accurate as we thought.  </p>
<p>At any rate, let&#8217;s say it&#8217;s only accurate to within a two year window &#8211; that&#8217;s still locking it down quite a lot.  I think I would want to hear &#8220;normal&#8221; or &#8220;premature&#8221; but perhaps not the date itself.</p>
<p>Bea</p>
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		<title>By: loribeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>loribeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 01:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone left this link on my blog -- I thought about your post as I read it: 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/03/ivf-fertility-infertility-gedis-grudzinskas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone left this link on my blog &#8212; I thought about your post as I read it: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/03/ivf-fertility-infertility-gedis-grudzinskas" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/03/ivf-fertility-infertility-gedis-grudzinskas</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 23:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d definitely would have started earlier having children if I knew I&#039;d enter menopause earlier, to leave more options open. 

This being said... I&#039;m adopted, and my bio-mother found me last year, and I got a health history for the first time ever... and she informed me that early onset menopause runs in the family!!!  ACK!  If I knew that, I definitely wouldn&#039;t have waited until 27 to start my family, I&#039;d have started more around 24-25.  

I didn&#039;t even know such a test existed, I want one now!  I wonder if any insurance covers it or how expensive it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d definitely would have started earlier having children if I knew I&#8217;d enter menopause earlier, to leave more options open. </p>
<p>This being said&#8230; I&#8217;m adopted, and my bio-mother found me last year, and I got a health history for the first time ever&#8230; and she informed me that early onset menopause runs in the family!!!  ACK!  If I knew that, I definitely wouldn&#8217;t have waited until 27 to start my family, I&#8217;d have started more around 24-25.  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t even know such a test existed, I want one now!  I wonder if any insurance covers it or how expensive it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Baby Smiling In Back Seat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baby Smiling In Back Seat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 23:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like many women don&#039;t realize they&#039;re in menopause even after it&#039;s started. Given my unpredictable cycles, I may very well be one of those people. So the test would be helpful not just to tell the future but to tell the present.

However, I&#039;d hope that the test wouldn&#039;t give people a false sense of security. Just because menopause won&#039;t start for X number of years doesn&#039;t mean that you&#039;ll be fertile that whole time -- or at all, in my case, having started TTC at 26.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like many women don&#8217;t realize they&#8217;re in menopause even after it&#8217;s started. Given my unpredictable cycles, I may very well be one of those people. So the test would be helpful not just to tell the future but to tell the present.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;d hope that the test wouldn&#8217;t give people a false sense of security. Just because menopause won&#8217;t start for X number of years doesn&#8217;t mean that you&#8217;ll be fertile that whole time &#8212; or at all, in my case, having started TTC at 26.</p>
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		<title>By: Valery Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valery Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 19:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking from the side of POF it now seems it would have been helpful. Even though I only met my DH at 32 it might have made the difference, we might have been on time instead of finding out we were too late at 36. He is a numbers person, he would have liked exact information. We might have considered embryo freezing if he really felt he was not ready.
I&#039;m thinking though that it would make more sense taking the test when you&#039;re starting to consider TTC versus waiting rather than at age 20.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking from the side of POF it now seems it would have been helpful. Even though I only met my DH at 32 it might have made the difference, we might have been on time instead of finding out we were too late at 36. He is a numbers person, he would have liked exact information. We might have considered embryo freezing if he really felt he was not ready.<br />
I&#8217;m thinking though that it would make more sense taking the test when you&#8217;re starting to consider TTC versus waiting rather than at age 20.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 00:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Loribeth that just because you&#039;re not menopausal doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re fertile.  It&#039;s too simplistic or dichotomous a piece of information for me.  (our IF was unexplained)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Loribeth that just because you&#8217;re not menopausal doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re fertile.  It&#8217;s too simplistic or dichotomous a piece of information for me.  (our IF was unexplained)</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 22:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lost my ute when I was 23. I went from non-menopausal to menopausal in 15 minutes of surgery. 

I knew...always, I knew. 

It&#039;s not good to know. Because, you KNOW. You know the end is near. Life is going to change. You are never going to be &quot;like everyone else.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lost my ute when I was 23. I went from non-menopausal to menopausal in 15 minutes of surgery. </p>
<p>I knew&#8230;always, I knew. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not good to know. Because, you KNOW. You know the end is near. Life is going to change. You are never going to be &#8220;like everyone else.&#8221;</p>
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