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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve spent a long time thinking about this, mostly because everyone around me seems to say &quot;well, your pregnancy sure does suck, but don&#039;t worry - it&#039;ll be worth it in the end!&quot;  Will it?  Will I feel like the baby at the end of all this erases the (literal) pain and agony that this pregnancy has brought to me?  Will this baby erase the heartache of 4 failed IVF cycles before the one that worked?  Will this baby change that getting here SUCKED MIGHTILY?  Probably not.  Does that change the fact that I love my children (both those who are already here and the one on its way)?  Of course not.  I adore my children.

It&#039;s an unfair question to ask when you&#039;re on the other side and on to parenthood.  Our children are the joys of our lives, the breath of fresh air that we breathe in each morning.  We would do anything for our children, and we can&#039;t imagine our lives without them.

Ask someone who does not reach parenthood through their IF journey.  Take someone who goes through years of treatment, multiple IVFs, miscarriage after miscarriage, has an adoption fall through, and finally decides that it&#039;s time to stop.  Ask that person whether it was all worth it only to end up choosing to be child-free (either by independent choice, or to have it hoisted upon them for financial or medical reasons).  Most of the women who I know that have *chosen* to take themselves off the island and continue their journey forward without children universally say, &quot;yes, it was worth it.&quot;  Worth it to know that they had tried everything.  Worth it to get to a point where they knew they were making the best choice for themselves to move on.  Worth it because they finally had some control over something, but they never would have known that had they not had their journey.

IF has changed me in tangible ways - some good, some bad, frankly.  I wouldn&#039;t give up my infertility experience, though - I&#039;ve met too many strong women (including you) who have helped carry me through the heartache, created too many friendships as a result of our mutual struggle, become more appreciative of the joys in my life.  I understand myself better.  I appreciate things differently.

But I still think it&#039;s horrific to force a woman to say &quot;it&#039;s all worth it&quot; just because she did get to the other side.  To me, the journey and the result are almost two separate entities.  The journey sucks.  The life on the other side, whether parenthood or child free, is priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve spent a long time thinking about this, mostly because everyone around me seems to say &#8220;well, your pregnancy sure does suck, but don&#8217;t worry &#8211; it&#8217;ll be worth it in the end!&#8221;  Will it?  Will I feel like the baby at the end of all this erases the (literal) pain and agony that this pregnancy has brought to me?  Will this baby erase the heartache of 4 failed IVF cycles before the one that worked?  Will this baby change that getting here SUCKED MIGHTILY?  Probably not.  Does that change the fact that I love my children (both those who are already here and the one on its way)?  Of course not.  I adore my children.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an unfair question to ask when you&#8217;re on the other side and on to parenthood.  Our children are the joys of our lives, the breath of fresh air that we breathe in each morning.  We would do anything for our children, and we can&#8217;t imagine our lives without them.</p>
<p>Ask someone who does not reach parenthood through their IF journey.  Take someone who goes through years of treatment, multiple IVFs, miscarriage after miscarriage, has an adoption fall through, and finally decides that it&#8217;s time to stop.  Ask that person whether it was all worth it only to end up choosing to be child-free (either by independent choice, or to have it hoisted upon them for financial or medical reasons).  Most of the women who I know that have *chosen* to take themselves off the island and continue their journey forward without children universally say, &#8220;yes, it was worth it.&#8221;  Worth it to know that they had tried everything.  Worth it to get to a point where they knew they were making the best choice for themselves to move on.  Worth it because they finally had some control over something, but they never would have known that had they not had their journey.</p>
<p>IF has changed me in tangible ways &#8211; some good, some bad, frankly.  I wouldn&#8217;t give up my infertility experience, though &#8211; I&#8217;ve met too many strong women (including you) who have helped carry me through the heartache, created too many friendships as a result of our mutual struggle, become more appreciative of the joys in my life.  I understand myself better.  I appreciate things differently.</p>
<p>But I still think it&#8217;s horrific to force a woman to say &#8220;it&#8217;s all worth it&#8221; just because she did get to the other side.  To me, the journey and the result are almost two separate entities.  The journey sucks.  The life on the other side, whether parenthood or child free, is priceless.</p>
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		<title>By: Flying Monkeys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flying Monkeys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it was.  I knew that I wasn&#039;t going to use another wish on the process when I sobbed during my last FET transfer.  As I sat there peering through my spread knees at the open half door, watching the cute lab tech (who could never make eye contact with me in the hall) scurry around checking numbers and names, I felt...humiliated.  I felt embarrassed. I had never felt that before and this was my 8th transfer not to mention the IUI&#039;s and all the fun stuff that got us to that point.  What an odd moment for modesty to rear its head.    I don&#039;t regret any of the choices we made, there are 2 obvious reasons why but without those choices I would have been left with a lot of &quot;what if&quot;&#039;s.
We all have our limits, what&#039;s worth it for me isn&#039;t to someone else and visa versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it was.  I knew that I wasn&#8217;t going to use another wish on the process when I sobbed during my last FET transfer.  As I sat there peering through my spread knees at the open half door, watching the cute lab tech (who could never make eye contact with me in the hall) scurry around checking numbers and names, I felt&#8230;humiliated.  I felt embarrassed. I had never felt that before and this was my 8th transfer not to mention the IUI&#8217;s and all the fun stuff that got us to that point.  What an odd moment for modesty to rear its head.    I don&#8217;t regret any of the choices we made, there are 2 obvious reasons why but without those choices I would have been left with a lot of &#8220;what if&#8221;&#8216;s.<br />
We all have our limits, what&#8217;s worth it for me isn&#8217;t to someone else and visa versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Paz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worth it? For me, yes. Before I had my son and after I say yes.

But there are people have children only to discover that it is not for them and they plan to never have another one. So, who knows? When the road is so hard, I guess it is reasonable, or at least there is the time, to ask the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worth it? For me, yes. Before I had my son and after I say yes.</p>
<p>But there are people have children only to discover that it is not for them and they plan to never have another one. So, who knows? When the road is so hard, I guess it is reasonable, or at least there is the time, to ask the question.</p>
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		<title>By: Kami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;anyone putting their heart through this should assess the emotional cost and use it to determine worth before, during, and perhaps after the experience.&quot;

I don&#039;t think you necessarily can judge the cost before you live it.   Just as I could imagine living in Africa before I went, it was very different than actually living there.  Being a parent is, in many ways, very much like I imagined it; but in other ways not at all.

If I had know what we would go through to have a child before we ever started TTC (dead baby, multiple failed IVF cycles, donor eggs after MFI) AND been able to turn off that innate desire to have children; I think I would have decided to skip it.

But when we start, we don&#039;t know how bad it could get.  Each step along the way, there would be a discussion of &quot;It is worth it?&quot; and we would, &quot;Yes, we can do one more IVF.&quot; or &quot;We can do DE&quot;, but we never had to say yes to the whole miserable 6 years.

Now I love our little girl and am happy to be where we are now and every day I am thankful for the things I get to experience, but I can&#039;t say for sure that it was worth it.  If I could have given myself the knowledge I have now 8 years ago, I might have been able to be happy with just the two of us.   Of course that is impossible and back then I couldn&#039;t imagine happiness / fulfillment without a child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;anyone putting their heart through this should assess the emotional cost and use it to determine worth before, during, and perhaps after the experience.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you necessarily can judge the cost before you live it.   Just as I could imagine living in Africa before I went, it was very different than actually living there.  Being a parent is, in many ways, very much like I imagined it; but in other ways not at all.</p>
<p>If I had know what we would go through to have a child before we ever started TTC (dead baby, multiple failed IVF cycles, donor eggs after MFI) AND been able to turn off that innate desire to have children; I think I would have decided to skip it.</p>
<p>But when we start, we don&#8217;t know how bad it could get.  Each step along the way, there would be a discussion of &#8220;It is worth it?&#8221; and we would, &#8220;Yes, we can do one more IVF.&#8221; or &#8220;We can do DE&#8221;, but we never had to say yes to the whole miserable 6 years.</p>
<p>Now I love our little girl and am happy to be where we are now and every day I am thankful for the things I get to experience, but I can&#8217;t say for sure that it was worth it.  If I could have given myself the knowledge I have now 8 years ago, I might have been able to be happy with just the two of us.   Of course that is impossible and back then I couldn&#8217;t imagine happiness / fulfillment without a child.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would use all three wishes on having just one healthy, live baby. Does that make me OTT, probably but being a mother is all Ive ever wanted.

I wrote a post called &quot;What if&quot; on this very topic a few days ago and also asked &quot;was it worth it&quot;? My motto now is KEEP GOING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would use all three wishes on having just one healthy, live baby. Does that make me OTT, probably but being a mother is all Ive ever wanted.</p>
<p>I wrote a post called &#8220;What if&#8221; on this very topic a few days ago and also asked &#8220;was it worth it&#8221;? My motto now is KEEP GOING.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thank you so much for this!  I&#039;ve been struggling with this a lot lately.  We&#039;re about to start IVF #2 and it&#039;s our last chance.  If it doesn&#039;t work, that&#039;s it.  We&#039;ve decided we will live child-free, retire early and travel the world.

Now that it is decided, I feel like maybe I didn&#039;t want it enough, and that&#039;s why it hasn&#039;t worked.  After all, if I wanted it enough, would I do everything possible to become a mother???  This has definitely helped me reconcile that, yes I desperately want to be a mother, but it&#039;s not worth it emotionally, mentally, fiscally, etc.  

Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thank you so much for this!  I&#8217;ve been struggling with this a lot lately.  We&#8217;re about to start IVF #2 and it&#8217;s our last chance.  If it doesn&#8217;t work, that&#8217;s it.  We&#8217;ve decided we will live child-free, retire early and travel the world.</p>
<p>Now that it is decided, I feel like maybe I didn&#8217;t want it enough, and that&#8217;s why it hasn&#8217;t worked.  After all, if I wanted it enough, would I do everything possible to become a mother???  This has definitely helped me reconcile that, yes I desperately want to be a mother, but it&#8217;s not worth it emotionally, mentally, fiscally, etc.  </p>
<p>Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: mash</title>
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		<dc:creator>mash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think for me the question isn&#039;t whether or not it&#039;s worth it, because I don&#039;t have the same level of yearning as some people do.  I think the question for me is, will I regret not trying harder.  

It&#039;s strange.  It&#039;s not so much a life with a child that I am desperate for, it&#039;s more that I had never expected to have a life without one.  It&#039;s almost as if I want to fix the wrong.

Your post has definitely made me think!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think for me the question isn&#8217;t whether or not it&#8217;s worth it, because I don&#8217;t have the same level of yearning as some people do.  I think the question for me is, will I regret not trying harder.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s strange.  It&#8217;s not so much a life with a child that I am desperate for, it&#8217;s more that I had never expected to have a life without one.  It&#8217;s almost as if I want to fix the wrong.</p>
<p>Your post has definitely made me think!</p>
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		<title>By: jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a wonderful post. I loved reading through the comments as well &amp; seeing so many different sides. 

Personally- yes. To get my daughter every single moment was worth it. I would have used a wish for sure. But, in retrospect- I am not sure that I would have wished to ~not~ go through IF. It changed me, and my husband, and shaped who we now are &amp; how we look at being parents. I think it has created a mindset that helps us through the bad bits (because there certainly are the bad bits) and makes us more patient &amp; understanding. In my disbelief that we actually ~get~ to be parents &amp; really truly have this amazing person as our daughter, I realize just how lucky we got &amp; that is worth going through what we did as well.

Like you though- I seem to have decided already that I would not use a second wish to build my family. I experienced a pregnancy- I have my angel safe &amp; healthy. If another comes to us somehow I will be happy, but I doubt that, for us, treatments are in our future again. 
My second wish would be used to cure my sisters chronic disease so that she could then experience the chance to be a mom too. (Or that she is able to be a mom through any way other than pregnancy- there&#039;s a lot of roadblocks for her)
I would also always like to have my third wish hanging out &amp; would probably shoot down a lot as non-wish-worthy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a wonderful post. I loved reading through the comments as well &amp; seeing so many different sides. </p>
<p>Personally- yes. To get my daughter every single moment was worth it. I would have used a wish for sure. But, in retrospect- I am not sure that I would have wished to ~not~ go through IF. It changed me, and my husband, and shaped who we now are &amp; how we look at being parents. I think it has created a mindset that helps us through the bad bits (because there certainly are the bad bits) and makes us more patient &amp; understanding. In my disbelief that we actually ~get~ to be parents &amp; really truly have this amazing person as our daughter, I realize just how lucky we got &amp; that is worth going through what we did as well.</p>
<p>Like you though- I seem to have decided already that I would not use a second wish to build my family. I experienced a pregnancy- I have my angel safe &amp; healthy. If another comes to us somehow I will be happy, but I doubt that, for us, treatments are in our future again.<br />
My second wish would be used to cure my sisters chronic disease so that she could then experience the chance to be a mom too. (Or that she is able to be a mom through any way other than pregnancy- there&#8217;s a lot of roadblocks for her)<br />
I would also always like to have my third wish hanging out &amp; would probably shoot down a lot as non-wish-worthy</p>
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		<title>By: Reba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very well said.  before my twins, i would have used up a wish.  afterwards, probably not.  i am so glad i got my little miracle daughter anyway, despite my lack of wish-using.  it really isn&#039;t a who can wish the most game, despite how much more fair things would be if it were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very well said.  before my twins, i would have used up a wish.  afterwards, probably not.  i am so glad i got my little miracle daughter anyway, despite my lack of wish-using.  it really isn&#8217;t a who can wish the most game, despite how much more fair things would be if it were.</p>
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		<title>By: IF Crossroads</title>
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		<dc:creator>IF Crossroads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Mel, this is a very deep and extremely thought provoking post! I had to read and then re-read and let it digest before I was ready to answer. 
I will say that I innately new the answer to your question even before I was ready to acknowledge it it print. 
Being almost 12 weeks now, would I change my wish from 2009 to be pregnant? Was it worth my emotional sanity? Right now, I don&#039;t think I can answer that question because my LO isn&#039;t here. But I will say that I was *this* close to throwing in the towel after that IVF cycle because I didn&#039;t want to torture myself anymore. At the moment of conception, experiencing the hell of IF wasn&#039;t worth it to me anymore. Like you said, I was so focused on beating the hell out of infertility that I lost sight of the true goal of being a mother.
I am almost positive that I am one of those people who would have eventually (after grieving the LOSS/being beat by IF) been resolute with living childfree. In the grand scheme of things, using my three wishes in life to include conquering  IF, I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d do it. Because I haven&#039;t experienced the &quot;reward&quot; for all of  the hell I experienced just to get to this point. My opinion might change once the baby arrives, but that&#039;s how I feel right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Mel, this is a very deep and extremely thought provoking post! I had to read and then re-read and let it digest before I was ready to answer.<br />
I will say that I innately new the answer to your question even before I was ready to acknowledge it it print.<br />
Being almost 12 weeks now, would I change my wish from 2009 to be pregnant? Was it worth my emotional sanity? Right now, I don&#8217;t think I can answer that question because my LO isn&#8217;t here. But I will say that I was *this* close to throwing in the towel after that IVF cycle because I didn&#8217;t want to torture myself anymore. At the moment of conception, experiencing the hell of IF wasn&#8217;t worth it to me anymore. Like you said, I was so focused on beating the hell out of infertility that I lost sight of the true goal of being a mother.<br />
I am almost positive that I am one of those people who would have eventually (after grieving the LOSS/being beat by IF) been resolute with living childfree. In the grand scheme of things, using my three wishes in life to include conquering  IF, I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d do it. Because I haven&#8217;t experienced the &#8220;reward&#8221; for all of  the hell I experienced just to get to this point. My opinion might change once the baby arrives, but that&#8217;s how I feel right now.</p>
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