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		<title>By: Battynurse</title>
		<link>http://www.stirrup-queens.com/2009/12/joke-book/comment-page-1/#comment-52790</link>
		<dc:creator>Battynurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am to the point where I can&#039;t even hardly read that woman&#039;s articles.  She is so biased and will only ever show the down side of ART and of course there will be so many of those who view ART as bad and awful to follow along with the piper.  I managed the first page where she made Mrs. Kehoe sound like some horrible person who &quot;built&quot; her baby. How horrible she was.   What she doesn&#039;t focus on is the heart break they must have felt to have those babies removed from them and my anger or irritation with the surrogate who took on a situation with that much emotional baggage to it without fulling investigating the circumstances and deciding if it was a situation she was ok with.   How fucked up is that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am to the point where I can&#8217;t even hardly read that woman&#8217;s articles.  She is so biased and will only ever show the down side of ART and of course there will be so many of those who view ART as bad and awful to follow along with the piper.  I managed the first page where she made Mrs. Kehoe sound like some horrible person who &#8220;built&#8221; her baby. How horrible she was.   What she doesn&#8217;t focus on is the heart break they must have felt to have those babies removed from them and my anger or irritation with the surrogate who took on a situation with that much emotional baggage to it without fulling investigating the circumstances and deciding if it was a situation she was ok with.   How fucked up is that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for so eloquently posting what we were all thinking.  All I could do was shake my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for so eloquently posting what we were all thinking.  All I could do was shake my head.</p>
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		<title>By: Kami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  I came across the article late, but I am equally disgusted.  Just the tone alone.  I am all for more regulation regarding assisted reproduction - as long as we can force sterilization on unfit parents.  Oh, and I get to decide who is unfit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  I came across the article late, but I am equally disgusted.  Just the tone alone.  I am all for more regulation regarding assisted reproduction &#8211; as long as we can force sterilization on unfit parents.  Oh, and I get to decide who is unfit.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our own doctor said &quot;Designer baby&quot; when we talked about moving to donor eggs and donor sperm (husband has a balanced translocation). I was pretty shocked that SHE said it, but also, c&#039;mon, it isn&#039;t as if we really get to design the baby. We set the &#039;match&#039; in motion, but the baby that results is not under our control. We don&#039;t get to choose Egg donor&#039;s nose, sperm donors hair. Oy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our own doctor said &#8220;Designer baby&#8221; when we talked about moving to donor eggs and donor sperm (husband has a balanced translocation). I was pretty shocked that SHE said it, but also, c&#8217;mon, it isn&#8217;t as if we really get to design the baby. We set the &#8216;match&#8217; in motion, but the baby that results is not under our control. We don&#8217;t get to choose Egg donor&#8217;s nose, sperm donors hair. Oy.</p>
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		<title>By: Shinejil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shinejil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brava, Mel! Well said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brava, Mel! Well said!</p>
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		<title>By: BeyondInfertility</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeyondInfertility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@%^***$#%@@#!*  

Thanks for putting this into appropriate language Mel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@%^***$#%@@#!*  </p>
<p>Thanks for putting this into appropriate language Mel!</p>
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		<title>By: Frau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this article and came over here just to watch you ream her.  You hit my points exactly.  What?  They just let people reproduce in this country?  Surely you jest.  What?  Someone on MEDICATION parents in this country?  Well lets ramp up CPS on all the post-partum mommies!

The funny thing is, I get the feeling that Ms. Saul fancies herself very modern and liberal.  Unfortunately, her articles (and the lovely comments) read like Dan Quayle&#039;s famous speech: &quot;OMG!  It&#039;s not a NORMAL family!  Ewwwww!  Squish it! Squish it! Squish it!&quot;

The annoying this is that my husband and I are trying to adopt from the foster care system.  We are doing what so many people say we are &quot;supposed&quot; to be doing.  We are going to the mythical wellspring of babies where all infertile couples are supposedly destined by the universe to drink.  Did we suddenly morph into saintly, responsible people when we decided to quit fertility treatments?  Pah!  We&#039;re still the same old selfish people pursuing what WE WANT: We want to experience parenthood.   The &quot;we want this&quot; part of it was there when we tossed the birth control, it was there when we did all the injections, and it&#039;s still there while they approve our mental health.  (P.S. The government is paying for part of it.  Get your smelling salts.)  

Ms. Saul and her angry mob have no clue.  You&#039;d think they&#039;d get at least one between the lot of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this article and came over here just to watch you ream her.  You hit my points exactly.  What?  They just let people reproduce in this country?  Surely you jest.  What?  Someone on MEDICATION parents in this country?  Well lets ramp up CPS on all the post-partum mommies!</p>
<p>The funny thing is, I get the feeling that Ms. Saul fancies herself very modern and liberal.  Unfortunately, her articles (and the lovely comments) read like Dan Quayle&#8217;s famous speech: &#8220;OMG!  It&#8217;s not a NORMAL family!  Ewwwww!  Squish it! Squish it! Squish it!&#8221;</p>
<p>The annoying this is that my husband and I are trying to adopt from the foster care system.  We are doing what so many people say we are &#8220;supposed&#8221; to be doing.  We are going to the mythical wellspring of babies where all infertile couples are supposedly destined by the universe to drink.  Did we suddenly morph into saintly, responsible people when we decided to quit fertility treatments?  Pah!  We&#8217;re still the same old selfish people pursuing what WE WANT: We want to experience parenthood.   The &#8220;we want this&#8221; part of it was there when we tossed the birth control, it was there when we did all the injections, and it&#8217;s still there while they approve our mental health.  (P.S. The government is paying for part of it.  Get your smelling salts.)  </p>
<p>Ms. Saul and her angry mob have no clue.  You&#8217;d think they&#8217;d get at least one between the lot of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Traci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK.  I&#039;ll agree that the article goes out of its way to find some pretty bizarre cases for surrogacy gone wrong and doesn&#039;t even both to mention the amazing and giving nature of many surrogates who help infertile families have a child, and that is frankly disgusting.  The one thing I&#039;d like to add is this, how is it that these brokers are allowed to make tons of money on these arrangements and not let their client&#039;s know that their babies can be taken away without merit.  I feel the IVF Michigan clinic and any broker in this quagmire was very irresponsible to receive money and sanction this without legal protection for the couple who paid their bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.  I&#8217;ll agree that the article goes out of its way to find some pretty bizarre cases for surrogacy gone wrong and doesn&#8217;t even both to mention the amazing and giving nature of many surrogates who help infertile families have a child, and that is frankly disgusting.  The one thing I&#8217;d like to add is this, how is it that these brokers are allowed to make tons of money on these arrangements and not let their client&#8217;s know that their babies can be taken away without merit.  I feel the IVF Michigan clinic and any broker in this quagmire was very irresponsible to receive money and sanction this without legal protection for the couple who paid their bill.</p>
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		<title>By: once a mother</title>
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		<dc:creator>once a mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a wonder that this woman who knows so little, is viewed by some as an authority on this subject. As the commenter above me stated... so upsetting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a wonder that this woman who knows so little, is viewed by some as an authority on this subject. As the commenter above me stated&#8230; so upsetting.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So upsetting.</description>
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