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		<title>By: Aurelia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aurelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had friends who took it well live or email and I had phrased it ever so delicately---&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I had another friend who sincerely has never ever been able to be nice to me again. Even though she has since adopted a child and it&#039;s been years, she just can&#039;t stop resenting me because I got pregnant. (This was true even when I had gotten pregnant and had miscarriages. She was literally jealous of my dead babies, because at least I got to be pregnant. Yaaa, jaw dropped.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have always tried to be careful. Always. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But some people, will never be happy. And at some point, I had to let it go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve had friends who took it well live or email and I had phrased it ever so delicately&#8212;</p>
<p>And I had another friend who sincerely has never ever been able to be nice to me again. Even though she has since adopted a child and it&#39;s been years, she just can&#39;t stop resenting me because I got pregnant. (This was true even when I had gotten pregnant and had miscarriages. She was literally jealous of my dead babies, because at least I got to be pregnant. Yaaa, jaw dropped.)</p>
<p>I have always tried to be careful. Always. </p>
<p>But some people, will never be happy. And at some point, I had to let it go.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have many friends who look at their husbands sideways and get pregnant and a few who are experiencing IF like myself. And a couple who are still single and devastated by that fact.  The ones who blink and have a baby have no idea what this journey is like nor do I expect them to understand. I also don&#039;t expect them to temper their own happiness around me or for me.  BUT I do expect a little bit of grace when sharing news, asking favors, like going to Costco to hold their newborn, while they shop for their three year old&#039;s birthday party.  I believe our friends will ask things of us, tell us things we might not want to hear, and it is up to us to set our boundaries, let them know and take care of ourselves.  If that means you can&#039;t make it to the birthday party for the three year old, then so be it. &lt;br /&gt;Note to Self: You are the only person in the world who can make you happy or sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have many friends who look at their husbands sideways and get pregnant and a few who are experiencing IF like myself. And a couple who are still single and devastated by that fact.  The ones who blink and have a baby have no idea what this journey is like nor do I expect them to understand. I also don&#39;t expect them to temper their own happiness around me or for me.  BUT I do expect a little bit of grace when sharing news, asking favors, like going to Costco to hold their newborn, while they shop for their three year old&#39;s birthday party.  I believe our friends will ask things of us, tell us things we might not want to hear, and it is up to us to set our boundaries, let them know and take care of ourselves.  If that means you can&#39;t make it to the birthday party for the three year old, then so be it. <br />Note to Self: You are the only person in the world who can make you happy or sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;ve been on both sides of this.  While TTC this past 18 months, I had to remind myself of the fact that other people&#039;s luck with fertility was not DIRECTLY causing my infertiilty (though it often felt that way...like God was only passing out so many BFPs  for the month, and the quota was taken up by the Duggars, Octomom, my &#039;we just tried once&#039; friend&#039;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think one of the benefits of being completely out in the open with my infertility this time around, was that I was able to set up &#039;pacts&#039; with my fertile friends.  Those that were TTC, agreed to tell me FIRST and in private, so I could kindly bow out of big announcement or cry for myself.  This agreement was made after one of my very good friends told me LAST of everyone (trying hard not to hurt me, I know), but it left me feeling like I had the plague or something.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I&#039;m on the other side of this as I have two friends who are dealing with IF while I have gotten a bfp with twins no less.  The best that I could do was to all them privately, and check in often that they didn&#039;t feel I was &#039;rubbing their noses&#039; in my news.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For me, transparency has been the key.  They more fertiles understand the dynamics of infertility, the more understanding they become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#39;ve been on both sides of this.  While TTC this past 18 months, I had to remind myself of the fact that other people&#39;s luck with fertility was not DIRECTLY causing my infertiilty (though it often felt that way&#8230;like God was only passing out so many BFPs  for the month, and the quota was taken up by the Duggars, Octomom, my &#39;we just tried once&#39; friend&#39;).</p>
<p>I think one of the benefits of being completely out in the open with my infertility this time around, was that I was able to set up &#39;pacts&#39; with my fertile friends.  Those that were TTC, agreed to tell me FIRST and in private, so I could kindly bow out of big announcement or cry for myself.  This agreement was made after one of my very good friends told me LAST of everyone (trying hard not to hurt me, I know), but it left me feeling like I had the plague or something.</p>
<p>Now I&#39;m on the other side of this as I have two friends who are dealing with IF while I have gotten a bfp with twins no less.  The best that I could do was to all them privately, and check in often that they didn&#39;t feel I was &#39;rubbing their noses&#39; in my news.</p>
<p>For me, transparency has been the key.  They more fertiles understand the dynamics of infertility, the more understanding they become.</p>
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		<title>By: serenity</title>
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		<dc:creator>serenity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes, and yes to this: &quot;being infertile or going through a loss does not mean that you&#039;ve perfected empathy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can&#039;t tell you how hard I&#039;ve had with my SIL&#039;s recurring miscarriages, my own sister&#039;s IF, and now with my friend S&#039;s cancer. I am terrified of saying the wrong thing, I have probably SAID the wrong thing, and I truly hope that they all forgive me my stupid comments because I mean it from a place of love and kindness. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That&#039;s exactly what I meant when I said it really does need to go both ways. And it&#039;s applicable EVERYWHERE. Giving someone the benefit of the doubt, really trying to understand PAST the words they&#039;re saying goes a really long way. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, and yes to this: &quot;being infertile or going through a loss does not mean that you&#39;ve perfected empathy.&quot;</p>
<p>I can&#39;t tell you how hard I&#39;ve had with my SIL&#39;s recurring miscarriages, my own sister&#39;s IF, and now with my friend S&#39;s cancer. I am terrified of saying the wrong thing, I have probably SAID the wrong thing, and I truly hope that they all forgive me my stupid comments because I mean it from a place of love and kindness. </p>
<p>That&#39;s exactly what I meant when I said it really does need to go both ways. And it&#39;s applicable EVERYWHERE. Giving someone the benefit of the doubt, really trying to understand PAST the words they&#39;re saying goes a really long way. </p>
<p>xx</p>
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		<title>By: JamieD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post.  Also, Serenity&#039;s comment about remembering that people typically have good intentions, even when they come out all wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a friend and co-worker who went to the same RE as me and chose to adopt about a year before I got pregnant.  As much as we talked and as much as I know what she went through, I can&#039;t tell you how many times I&#039;ve kicked myself for saying something that came out ALL WRONG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post.  Also, Serenity&#39;s comment about remembering that people typically have good intentions, even when they come out all wrong.</p>
<p>I have a friend and co-worker who went to the same RE as me and chose to adopt about a year before I got pregnant.  As much as we talked and as much as I know what she went through, I can&#39;t tell you how many times I&#39;ve kicked myself for saying something that came out ALL WRONG.</p>
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		<title>By: Lavender Luz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lavender Luz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this: &quot;We can be happy for another person, but that does not mean that we are happy like the other person.&quot;  So true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here&#039;s the theme song for this post. It will be in my head all day tomorrow, and now in yours, too :-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITWZ7wOTojA&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this: &quot;We can be happy for another person, but that does not mean that we are happy like the other person.&quot;  So true.</p>
<p>Here&#39;s the theme song for this post. It will be in my head all day tomorrow, and now in yours, too <img src='http://www.stirrup-queens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITWZ7wOTojA&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITWZ7wOTojA&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful, wonderful post...both this one and the original at AlphaMom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful, wonderful post&#8230;both this one and the original at AlphaMom</p>
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		<title>By: Lollipop Goldstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lollipop Goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree somewhat with the idea of not having a free pass EXCEPT in regards to time.  Our friends had just lost their child, to expect them to come to our child&#039;s baby naming would be cruel.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I love cultures that have a certain dress for the mourning period--to give a clear sign to those who encounter them that they are in mourning and tread carefully.  It gives respect to the process.  I think in the US, we&#039;re too quick to expect people to heal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree somewhat with the idea of not having a free pass EXCEPT in regards to time.  Our friends had just lost their child, to expect them to come to our child&#39;s baby naming would be cruel.  </p>
<p>I love cultures that have a certain dress for the mourning period&#8211;to give a clear sign to those who encounter them that they are in mourning and tread carefully.  It gives respect to the process.  I think in the US, we&#39;re too quick to expect people to heal.</p>
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		<title>By: Lollipop Goldstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lollipop Goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Chickenpig, we actually agree due to double reverse psychology :-)  And for talking for so long via IVFC.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m sure your aunt said it sensitively, so your grandfather could jump right to happiness.  What I meant by witness vs. experiencing it...when a sibling announces their pregnancy, I can jump straight to happy because I&#039;m actually involved--I&#039;m an aunt, not a witness.  Close friends too.  But acquaintances and peripheral friends--as much as I love some of them and see them regularly due to circumstances (like being in the same shul), I also get that I&#039;m a witness.  I&#039;m not a permanent part of their life.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do think we can feel intense feelings about people we don&#039;t know--I certainly started family building early due to that nameless NY woman who lost her husband.  And I have cried over many losses in the blogosphere--most of them from people who I read prior to the loss.  And I&#039;ve jumped around the living room for some.  But I do share more with some rather than others, and that is perhaps what people should keep in mind as they tailor information.  If I were the most fertile woman in the world, I would tell my best friend how long it took me to conceive.  If I were the most fertile woman in the world, I may be a bit more circumspect crowing that fact around the office having no clue how others will hear my news.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you look at your relationships like a circle, with the people you&#039;re closest to in the center and those who are lesser known towards the outer circle, I&#039;d give the most information, expect the largest reaction from those in the center.  I&#039;d expect little and tell little (unless they ask questions) to those on the outer edges.  And anyone who has taken the time to share with me aspects of their life would have me remember that I keep it in mind when I speak with them.  If they don&#039;t tell me, I can&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Chickenpig, we actually agree due to double reverse psychology <img src='http://www.stirrup-queens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   And for talking for so long via IVFC.</p>
<p>I&#39;m sure your aunt said it sensitively, so your grandfather could jump right to happiness.  What I meant by witness vs. experiencing it&#8230;when a sibling announces their pregnancy, I can jump straight to happy because I&#39;m actually involved&#8211;I&#39;m an aunt, not a witness.  Close friends too.  But acquaintances and peripheral friends&#8211;as much as I love some of them and see them regularly due to circumstances (like being in the same shul), I also get that I&#39;m a witness.  I&#39;m not a permanent part of their life.  </p>
<p>I do think we can feel intense feelings about people we don&#39;t know&#8211;I certainly started family building early due to that nameless NY woman who lost her husband.  And I have cried over many losses in the blogosphere&#8211;most of them from people who I read prior to the loss.  And I&#39;ve jumped around the living room for some.  But I do share more with some rather than others, and that is perhaps what people should keep in mind as they tailor information.  If I were the most fertile woman in the world, I would tell my best friend how long it took me to conceive.  If I were the most fertile woman in the world, I may be a bit more circumspect crowing that fact around the office having no clue how others will hear my news.  </p>
<p>If you look at your relationships like a circle, with the people you&#39;re closest to in the center and those who are lesser known towards the outer circle, I&#39;d give the most information, expect the largest reaction from those in the center.  I&#39;d expect little and tell little (unless they ask questions) to those on the outer edges.  And anyone who has taken the time to share with me aspects of their life would have me remember that I keep it in mind when I speak with them.  If they don&#39;t tell me, I can&#39;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: becomingwhole</title>
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		<dc:creator>becomingwhole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant, Mel.  Thank you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m not sure I understand the first part of your comment, Chickenpig.  I understood that Mel was saying that the opposite of &quot;not being affected by other people&#039;s news.&quot;  Can you clarify what you meant in your first paragraph?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant, Mel.  Thank you.</p>
<p>I&#39;m not sure I understand the first part of your comment, Chickenpig.  I understood that Mel was saying that the opposite of &quot;not being affected by other people&#39;s news.&quot;  Can you clarify what you meant in your first paragraph?</p>
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