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		<title>By: Artblog</title>
		<link>http://www.stirrup-queens.com/2009/05/additional-thoughts-on-emotional-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-45649</link>
		<dc:creator>Artblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 07:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only think I can add to all this is that it&#039;s quite clear to me after reading both post comments and Niobe&#039;s that some bloggers take blogging too seriously. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s good and correct to care and show that care to complete stangers, and more so if you&#039;ve met that person IRL but in general if you&#039;re giving money to someone in internet land that you&#039;ve never met and have no idea are genuine or not, you&#039;ve gone above simply caring and being interested in the outcome of someone&#039;s journey to something nearing unhealthy interest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That&#039;s why, however sad it is to say and however mean it may sound, I think money/donations and blogging should be kept separate for so many reasons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are other always to donate to the cause but in general paying for holidays and treatments doesn&#039;t sound necessary when you think that WE ALL could do with financial aid for ART treatments and a good holiday to de-stress during, yet we don&#039;t ask for it and even if we didn&#039;t ask for it, those people shouldn&#039;t accept it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I didn&#039;t much like the question in the first place. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We don&#039;t need an excuse to re-think who is being really honest or not and whether the person is a fake or not. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why put mistrust in bloggers against other bloggers? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s turning into one big cat fight full of mistrust and questioning and whoever asked this question in the first place really shouldn&#039;t have, sorry but you shouldn&#039;t have.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So LADIES, can we all get that old loving back PLEASE!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;AND if someone out of thousands turns out to suffer from some sort of munchens thingy, too bad, there are plenty of genuine bloggers needing support and I don&#039;t see why a handful of fakes should spoil all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only think I can add to all this is that it&#8217;s quite clear to me after reading both post comments and Niobe&#8217;s that some bloggers take blogging too seriously. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s good and correct to care and show that care to complete stangers, and more so if you&#8217;ve met that person IRL but in general if you&#8217;re giving money to someone in internet land that you&#8217;ve never met and have no idea are genuine or not, you&#8217;ve gone above simply caring and being interested in the outcome of someone&#8217;s journey to something nearing unhealthy interest.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why, however sad it is to say and however mean it may sound, I think money/donations and blogging should be kept separate for so many reasons.</p>
<p>There are other always to donate to the cause but in general paying for holidays and treatments doesn&#8217;t sound necessary when you think that WE ALL could do with financial aid for ART treatments and a good holiday to de-stress during, yet we don&#8217;t ask for it and even if we didn&#8217;t ask for it, those people shouldn&#8217;t accept it.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t much like the question in the first place. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need an excuse to re-think who is being really honest or not and whether the person is a fake or not. </p>
<p>Why put mistrust in bloggers against other bloggers? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s turning into one big cat fight full of mistrust and questioning and whoever asked this question in the first place really shouldn&#8217;t have, sorry but you shouldn&#8217;t have.</p>
<p>So LADIES, can we all get that old loving back PLEASE!</p>
<p>AND if someone out of thousands turns out to suffer from some sort of munchens thingy, too bad, there are plenty of genuine bloggers needing support and I don&#8217;t see why a handful of fakes should spoil all that.</p>
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		<title>By: CreoleInDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CreoleInDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a chick once that pretended she had cancer.  I&#039;m a cancer surviver and have the scars and fake boob to prove it and I know it&#039;s difficult.  Supposedly she was a new mother and was dying and her blog was basically about her journey.  Man...her posts were very touching.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One day folks showed up to her blog and there was a post from her &quot;sister&quot; stating the blogger had died the previous night.  The &quot;sister&quot; wrote about how sweet her niece was and that she knew she&#039;d face challenges being her guardian blah, blah, blah.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Turns out some folks&#039; spidey senses went off because the writing style was the same and there was a word mispelled by the &quot;sister&quot; that the blogger often mispelled as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Long story short...after some checking around and serious internet investigating...it was all found to be a lie.  It ROCKED the blogosphere I&#039;m a part of.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I couldn&#039;t believe someone would do that.  Who would fake having cancer and who would fake their death?  And then...who would pretend they were their own grieving sister so they could continue blogging?????&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was really weird.  I said all that to say, however, that I didn&#039;t let that experience make my cynical of everyone thereafter and I&#039;m a much better person because of it.  I don&#039;t have a problem giving or feeling if my heart leads me in that direction.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don&#039;t you change either.  Who wants more cynical buttholes to deal with instead of positive, happy people?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NOT.ME.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a chick once that pretended she had cancer.  I&#8217;m a cancer surviver and have the scars and fake boob to prove it and I know it&#8217;s difficult.  Supposedly she was a new mother and was dying and her blog was basically about her journey.  Man&#8230;her posts were very touching.</p>
<p>One day folks showed up to her blog and there was a post from her &#8220;sister&#8221; stating the blogger had died the previous night.  The &#8220;sister&#8221; wrote about how sweet her niece was and that she knew she&#8217;d face challenges being her guardian blah, blah, blah.</p>
<p>Turns out some folks&#8217; spidey senses went off because the writing style was the same and there was a word mispelled by the &#8220;sister&#8221; that the blogger often mispelled as well.</p>
<p>Long story short&#8230;after some checking around and serious internet investigating&#8230;it was all found to be a lie.  It ROCKED the blogosphere I&#8217;m a part of.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t believe someone would do that.  Who would fake having cancer and who would fake their death?  And then&#8230;who would pretend they were their own grieving sister so they could continue blogging?????</p>
<p>It was really weird.  I said all that to say, however, that I didn&#8217;t let that experience make my cynical of everyone thereafter and I&#8217;m a much better person because of it.  I don&#8217;t have a problem giving or feeling if my heart leads me in that direction.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you change either.  Who wants more cynical buttholes to deal with instead of positive, happy people?  </p>
<p>NOT.ME.</p>
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		<title>By: MrsSpock</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrsSpock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 02:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure good can come out of a lie. What happens when everyone finds out about the lie, and perceives us all as malingering or crying wolf?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure good can come out of a lie. What happens when everyone finds out about the lie, and perceives us all as malingering or crying wolf?</p>
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		<title>By: jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had somebody try and pull one over on me and a friend I had IRL. Her details didn&#039;t mesh, so she caught herself in her own lie. I will never understand why anyone would do this, or lie about having lost a baby, or having suffered through IF. Its really terrible that we need to think &quot;Is this person telling the truth?&quot; every time you read a blog. I write mine for me, and if I pick up readers and friends along the way great. Don’t get me wrong I do love the sense of community but,  I don’t really blog for attention.  I really think that most of us started our blogs as a place to let out some of the emotion and pent up frustration we have. It’s a shame that others would deliberately mislead people that way. Also its sad for them to obviously not have anything better to do with their time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had somebody try and pull one over on me and a friend I had IRL. Her details didn&#8217;t mesh, so she caught herself in her own lie. I will never understand why anyone would do this, or lie about having lost a baby, or having suffered through IF. Its really terrible that we need to think &#8220;Is this person telling the truth?&#8221; every time you read a blog. I write mine for me, and if I pick up readers and friends along the way great. Don’t get me wrong I do love the sense of community but,  I don’t really blog for attention.  I really think that most of us started our blogs as a place to let out some of the emotion and pent up frustration we have. It’s a shame that others would deliberately mislead people that way. Also its sad for them to obviously not have anything better to do with their time.</p>
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		<title>By: &#34;MissMelissa&#34;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#34;MissMelissa&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read both your posts on emotional fraud, and I just hate the thought of it all. why do people take advantage of others??? UGH.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hate that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Melissa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read both your posts on emotional fraud, and I just hate the thought of it all. why do people take advantage of others??? UGH.</p>
<p>I hate that.</p>
<p>Melissa</p>
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		<title>By: Hope Endures</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hope Endures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I don&#039;t know that I can quite describe how I feel right now - very unsettled. Naive, certainly. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s only been recently that I&#039;ve gotten over my fear of commenting (thank you ICLW), and I&#039;m grateful for the relationships I&#039;ve started forming with other bloggers. I am also grateful for the parts of themselves that they share so openly; I have found support and encouragement and hope in their stories. I think of, pray for, and email with some of them frequently. To find out that any of their stories are less than the truth would be devastating. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess it&#039;s good to be aware that emotional fraud happens, but I have to agree that I hope it doesn&#039;t lead us all to be more guarded. The level of caring and support that I&#039;ve found so far in this community is not something that most of us have in real life. (At least, it&#039;s not something I have.) It&#039;s special and unique, and I hope that doesn&#039;t change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I don&#8217;t know that I can quite describe how I feel right now &#8211; very unsettled. Naive, certainly. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s only been recently that I&#8217;ve gotten over my fear of commenting (thank you ICLW), and I&#8217;m grateful for the relationships I&#8217;ve started forming with other bloggers. I am also grateful for the parts of themselves that they share so openly; I have found support and encouragement and hope in their stories. I think of, pray for, and email with some of them frequently. To find out that any of their stories are less than the truth would be devastating. </p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s good to be aware that emotional fraud happens, but I have to agree that I hope it doesn&#8217;t lead us all to be more guarded. The level of caring and support that I&#8217;ve found so far in this community is not something that most of us have in real life. (At least, it&#8217;s not something I have.) It&#8217;s special and unique, and I hope that doesn&#8217;t change.</p>
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		<title>By: JamieD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a shy, timid person in nature and far too easily trusting.  I started my blog so I could feel semi-anonymous in opening up my pain in ways I didn&#039;t feel like I could do IRL.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have never been scammed since being a part of this community, but if I were, I would feel like this person was not only mocking the whole community but me personally.  They would be taking away from the pain me or anyone else had actually experienced.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t know that any good done in the beginning wouldn&#039;t be destroyed by the fallout in the end.  From that point on, if the public was confronted with a ~real~ IVF/IF case, there would always be that suspicion in the back of their minds.  &quot;She&#039;s probably just crazy like that X . . .&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a shy, timid person in nature and far too easily trusting.  I started my blog so I could feel semi-anonymous in opening up my pain in ways I didn&#8217;t feel like I could do IRL.</p>
<p>I have never been scammed since being a part of this community, but if I were, I would feel like this person was not only mocking the whole community but me personally.  They would be taking away from the pain me or anyone else had actually experienced.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that any good done in the beginning wouldn&#8217;t be destroyed by the fallout in the end.  From that point on, if the public was confronted with a ~real~ IVF/IF case, there would always be that suspicion in the back of their minds.  &#8220;She&#8217;s probably just crazy like that X . . .&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it hard to believe - even in your scenario Mel - that there would not be a huge fallout in terms of how infertility is percieved from somone &quot;posing&quot; as an infertile and gaining support from the rest of the community. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another whacko to add to the list (people would still associate her with infertiles, even though s/he clearly wasn&#039;t). And a lot more suspicion which would ultimately add barriers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have sympathy for people who are doing this because they are using it to express another type of pain that is too confronting for others to look at and offer support.(as suggested by anon commentor on Niobes blog) Although I suspect this is not often the case. No matter the reason, a person doing this has some serious needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hard to believe &#8211; even in your scenario Mel &#8211; that there would not be a huge fallout in terms of how infertility is percieved from somone &#8220;posing&#8221; as an infertile and gaining support from the rest of the community. </p>
<p>Another whacko to add to the list (people would still associate her with infertiles, even though s/he clearly wasn&#8217;t). And a lot more suspicion which would ultimately add barriers.</p>
<p>I have sympathy for people who are doing this because they are using it to express another type of pain that is too confronting for others to look at and offer support.(as suggested by anon commentor on Niobes blog) Although I suspect this is not often the case. No matter the reason, a person doing this has some serious needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sometimes a bit of a schmuck, but I say that that&#039;s not bad for me...what is it to me if I am too loving, too trusting, too nice?  The fault is not my own, and I will never get to Heaven and have God tell me I was too kind to someone who was undeserving....see you later!  You know?  Fraud and the like is on their head, not mine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some stories, you know, ARE incredibly awful (I am thinking of my best internet friend, Cathy&#039;s situation right now).  It seems as if it can&#039;t be, must not be, how COULD it be???  Yet...I have been with Cathy since the begining and I have no doubt that it IS what she says it is.  And while we might question this person or that person....usually I believe people are truthful.  So, in my mind, it&#039;s better to support and love with that in mind, and let the liars be liars and just hope no one gets hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sometimes a bit of a schmuck, but I say that that&#8217;s not bad for me&#8230;what is it to me if I am too loving, too trusting, too nice?  The fault is not my own, and I will never get to Heaven and have God tell me I was too kind to someone who was undeserving&#8230;.see you later!  You know?  Fraud and the like is on their head, not mine.</p>
<p>Some stories, you know, ARE incredibly awful (I am thinking of my best internet friend, Cathy&#8217;s situation right now).  It seems as if it can&#8217;t be, must not be, how COULD it be???  Yet&#8230;I have been with Cathy since the begining and I have no doubt that it IS what she says it is.  And while we might question this person or that person&#8230;.usually I believe people are truthful.  So, in my mind, it&#8217;s better to support and love with that in mind, and let the liars be liars and just hope no one gets hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: WiseGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>WiseGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong is a wrong is a wrong....a fake story ultimately hurts everybody who became a part of it... God! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You could have asked that Ms. FameSeeker to enlist in ICLW....atleast everybody hits the list or most of it , every month...but yeah, there sure is one thing, if she cannot return the favour, she should not ask for it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong is a wrong is a wrong&#8230;.a fake story ultimately hurts everybody who became a part of it&#8230; God! </p>
<p>You could have asked that Ms. FameSeeker to enlist in ICLW&#8230;.atleast everybody hits the list or most of it , every month&#8230;but yeah, there sure is one thing, if she cannot return the favour, she should not ask for it&#8230;</p>
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