Comments on: Mother Jones, you saucy wench! http://www.stirrup-queens.com/2006/07/mother-jones-you-saucy-wench/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:39:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sophia http://www.stirrup-queens.com/2006/07/mother-jones-you-saucy-wench/comment-page-1/#comment-25698 Sophia Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:36:00 +0000 http://www.stirrup-queens.com/test/?p=67#comment-25698 i think i would like to see rational regulation which this govt is incapable of like setting a standard for sperm bank pricing (125$ to deliver to an office 20 blocks away from the bank!)and lifting the ban on gay male sperm donors i think i would like to see rational regulation which this govt is incapable of like setting a standard for sperm bank pricing (125$ to deliver to an office 20 blocks away from the bank!)and lifting the ban on gay male sperm donors

]]> By: aah0424 http://www.stirrup-queens.com/2006/07/mother-jones-you-saucy-wench/comment-page-1/#comment-25697 aah0424 Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:51:00 +0000 http://www.stirrup-queens.com/test/?p=67#comment-25697 I don't think my answer is a yes or a no. I'm not a big fan of the government being more involved in our lives or having more say in our personal situations, but if it would help most of us I would be for it. When I first read the question I thought absolutey if it benefits me and the millions dealing with IF. Sadly, I don't think it would work that way. <br/><br/>It scares me that if the government got involved they would pick and choose according to their own agenda. For example, this is a bill (I think it passed?) in Virginia http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?061+sum+HB187<br/><br/>Basically, if the link doesn't work, it says it is unlawful for any clinics in the state to intervene medically on an unmarried woman to achieve conception. So if you are a lesbian or a widow wanting to us your deceased husbands frozen sperm--your SOL in Va. Since Va is pretty conservative it is sort of a no brainer they would do something like this, but I think with regulations that would help so many of us it may end up hurting others. Or, they may say we'll help you but you HAVE TO AGREE to do XYZ with your frozen embryos.<br/><br/>I'm sorry if I'm rambling on. I guess I'm just saying I don't have a cut and dry answer to this question because it would all depend on what the regulations were in exchange for. I don’t think my answer is a yes or a no. I’m not a big fan of the government being more involved in our lives or having more say in our personal situations, but if it would help most of us I would be for it. When I first read the question I thought absolutey if it benefits me and the millions dealing with IF. Sadly, I don’t think it would work that way.

It scares me that if the government got involved they would pick and choose according to their own agenda. For example, this is a bill (I think it passed?) in Virginia http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?061+sum+HB187

Basically, if the link doesn’t work, it says it is unlawful for any clinics in the state to intervene medically on an unmarried woman to achieve conception. So if you are a lesbian or a widow wanting to us your deceased husbands frozen sperm–your SOL in Va. Since Va is pretty conservative it is sort of a no brainer they would do something like this, but I think with regulations that would help so many of us it may end up hurting others. Or, they may say we’ll help you but you HAVE TO AGREE to do XYZ with your frozen embryos.

I’m sorry if I’m rambling on. I guess I’m just saying I don’t have a cut and dry answer to this question because it would all depend on what the regulations were in exchange for.

]]> By: Piccinigirl http://www.stirrup-queens.com/2006/07/mother-jones-you-saucy-wench/comment-page-1/#comment-25696 Piccinigirl Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:24:00 +0000 http://www.stirrup-queens.com/test/?p=67#comment-25696 I think I could live with the gov't being involved, if it meant that I could have a shot at some more expensive treatments. I think that as with everything there will be corruption, undermining, bias. Yet I can't help thinking that if we could get the gov't to admit that wanting and not being able to have a child is a disease and derseves a real attempt at a "cure" that it is worthwhile. I think I could live with the gov’t being involved, if it meant that I could have a shot at some more expensive treatments. I think that as with everything there will be corruption, undermining, bias. Yet I can’t help thinking that if we could get the gov’t to admit that wanting and not being able to have a child is a disease and derseves a real attempt at a “cure” that it is worthwhile.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.stirrup-queens.com/2006/07/mother-jones-you-saucy-wench/comment-page-1/#comment-25695 Anonymous Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:52:00 +0000 http://www.stirrup-queens.com/test/?p=67#comment-25695 I am from New Zealand, and here we have a system of 'points' , if you get 65 you get two free IVF's (or one if the first is successful).<br/>The points system is kept under wraps and unless you are working in the area of if, would be hard to work out.<br/>Basically though, once you are over 40 you won't be elligable, likewise if you smoke, as chances are reduced,<br/>Other factors include, any children living with you, ovulation history, endo tubal factors sperm count ect..most people have to also have tried for 3 years if infertility is due to a diganosed problem, or 5 years if it is unexplaned.<br/><br/>It's an ok system, but not as good as other countires, I believe.<br/><br/>The waiting lists once elligable are 6-12 months, and if you are under 35years you may only have one transfered at a time. I am from New Zealand, and here we have a system of ‘points’ , if you get 65 you get two free IVF’s (or one if the first is successful).
The points system is kept under wraps and unless you are working in the area of if, would be hard to work out.
Basically though, once you are over 40 you won’t be elligable, likewise if you smoke, as chances are reduced,
Other factors include, any children living with you, ovulation history, endo tubal factors sperm count ect..most people have to also have tried for 3 years if infertility is due to a diganosed problem, or 5 years if it is unexplaned.

It’s an ok system, but not as good as other countires, I believe.

The waiting lists once elligable are 6-12 months, and if you are under 35years you may only have one transfered at a time.

]]> By: Anonymous Infertile http://www.stirrup-queens.com/2006/07/mother-jones-you-saucy-wench/comment-page-1/#comment-25694 Anonymous Infertile Thu, 20 Jul 2006 01:27:00 +0000 http://www.stirrup-queens.com/test/?p=67#comment-25694 I know that the government having any sort of say on what we can and cannot do with our bodies is probably dangerous. But, my husband and I do not currently have IF coverage which means that IVF is probably out of the question for us. If the gov't being involved would give us more options by having some mandatory coverage I would be all for it. <br/><br/>Kelly I know that the government having any sort of say on what we can and cannot do with our bodies is probably dangerous. But, my husband and I do not currently have IF coverage which means that IVF is probably out of the question for us. If the gov’t being involved would give us more options by having some mandatory coverage I would be all for it.

Kelly

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